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#AskAngel March 12, 2013
Is Facebook withering? Is Twitter in danger? We talk about which social networks bore and and excite us. Also: How to tell the difference between Angelique and a Victoria’s Secret Angel.
Storified by Angelique · Fri, Mar 15 2013 17:31:19
Today we actually had a topic, and we had a fabulous conversation!
Today on #AskAngel we actually have a topic: What bores & excites us about various social networks. See you soon! (2pmET)Angelique
But first, we had to redirect a few lost chatters:
I can’t wait to tweet live with @karliekloss @angelcandice and @AngelAlessandra #AskAngel so exitedRomy Omzigtig
@TheLoyaltyArez Hi! Just thought I’d tell you the Victoria’s Secret Models are using the tag #AskAnAngel. (askANangel) #AskAngelAngelique
@TheLoyaltyArez If you use just plain old #AskAngel, you get my chat. We’d love to have you, but I’m not a VicSecret model! #AskAngelAngelique
And then we had to clear up a great mystery:
@doomzTO The headline for my Storify will be "How to tell the difference between Angelique and a Victoria’s Secret Angel" #AskAngelAngelique
@afmarcom What’s the difference between Angelique and a Victoria’s Secret Angel? One of them knows how to use hashtags :P #AskAngelCasey E. Palmer
Yes, that’s the ONLY difference! :)
Afmarcom
And now…. THE TOPIC!
Okay, gang, today we sort of have a topic! What BORES you about various social networks? #AskAngelAngelique
What makes you forget to read or post, or feel like using that network is a chore. #AskAngelAngelique
Which networks bore you, and which do you find fun? #AskAngelAngelique
And the answers start pouring in!
@afmarcom Facebook’s tiresome, Twitter’s too convenient to leave, and haven’t really latched onto anything else. #AskAngelCasey E. Palmer
@afmarcom REALLY tired of Flickr, waiting for my Pro account to expire; LinkedIn just houses my resume. Ayup. #AskAngelCasey E. Palmer
@afmarcom I feel like FB is where everyone I KNEW is. The people I see most often NOW are all on Twitter. #AskAngelCasey E. Palmer
@afmarcom I’m with @doomzTO: Twitter is where I live. Other social media sites are secondary. #AskAngelSteve Case
@JoeBugBuster @afmarcom @doomzto For the most part I agree too #AskAngelHolly Chessman
@afmarcom HUUUGE fan of Quora and Tumblr. Never bored there. Fan of Youtube too. Facebook bores me now. #askangelPavel Konoplenko
We talked about why it’s hard to leave one social network for another….
@JoeBugBuster @afmarcom @HollyChessman Yeah, every time I check something else out, I think "but everyone I know’s on Twitter" #AskAngelCasey E. Palmer
Some ppl are like that for FB RT @doomzTO Yeah, every time I check something else out, I think "but everyone I know’s on Twitter" #AskAngelAngelique
….and we compared the networks.
@afmarcom A: twitter is a fun network, but also has great B2B use and good for B2C promos and customer service. FB is 4 friends. #AskAngelJeff Tincher
@JeffTincher @afmarcom Agree – & fam #AskAngelHolly Chessman
@hollychessman yep. and family too :) (and let’s me type longer than 140….haha!) #AskAngelJeff Tincher
@JeffTincher Plus I don’t want to bore Twitter friends with a million pics of my kids but FB connections eat them up #AskAngelHolly Chessman
@doomzTO @joebugbuster @afmarcom Also feel like u can have more active immediate convo via Twitter tho I hear G+ is good 4 that 2 #AskAngelHolly Chessman
The Good, the Bad, and the Google Plus:
@HollyChessman I am spending more time on #GooglePlus now @doomzTO @afmarcom #askangelSteve Case
@JoeBugBuster Are you really enjoying G+? What do you enjoy about it? #AskAngelAngelique
@tejones @JeffTincher @HollyChessman @doomzTO @afmarcom Like hangouts and how G+ archives links you share #AskAngelSteve Case
@JoeBugBuster @doomzto @afmarcom I’ve got to try it. Haven’t had bandwidth to do much yet but I like the concept of hangouts #AskAngelHolly Chessman
@HollyChessman @JoeBugBuster @afmarcom Had a 3-hour hangout with some friends the other night. LOTS covered. #AskAngelCasey E. Palmer
@afmarcom @JoeBugBuster G+ is great for hangouts, privacy, sharing things with certain people easily… #AskAngelCasey E. Palmer
@afmarcom #AskAngel still havent figured out G+ yet. Not getting it.Ironhelix
@Ironhelix G+ is one that bores me, although on paper it has the makings of a good network. #AskAngelAngelique
@afmarcom agreed. I end up checking it out maybe once or twice a month but cant seem to see the purpose #AskAngelIronhelix
@afmarcom @Ironhelix I truly want to love G+ but it hasn’t happened yet. #askangelRob Schnapp
@RobSchnapp @afmarcom also agreed. Just nothing compelling abt G+ yet, but I’ll keep poking a stick at it until its moves or dies #AskAngelIronhelix
First mention of a boutique network (more on this later!)
@afmarcom @virtualgestures Hi. Late entry! #askangel Enjoy: Twitter, FB, Rebelmouse, Tumblr. Bored (for now) by G+ but willing to adapt.Rob Schnapp
@RobSchnapp You’re the first to mention a boutique network (@Rebelmouse) #AskAngelAngelique
Back to Twitter, which suffers from a glut of social media tweets:
@elizonthego @afmarcom @Ironhelix Twitter still remains a fave #AskangelDatelivery
@afmarcom And as far as Twitter, I need to diversify who I follow. Been seeing too many links to social media articles now #askangelPavel Konoplenko
OMG IS PAVEL EVER RIGHT! @PavelNovel And as far as Twitter, been seeing too many links to social media articles #AskAngelAngelique
@afmarcom @PavelNovel Social media blogging / tweeting about #SocialMedia = endless loop #askangelSteve Case
I get cross eyed! RT @joebugbuster: @afmarcom @PavelNovel Social media blogging / tweeting about #SocialMedia = endless loop #askangelelizabeth traub
@JoeBugBuster @afmarcom Endless loop is right. I want to see an article about sports sometimes without following sportwriters #askangelPavel Konoplenko
A bit more about Facebook….
@PavelNovel @afmarcom Facebook is fun when your friends are active. #askangelRob Schnapp
Mine is pretty active. It’s a load of fun. RT @robschnapp: @PavelNovel @afmarcom Facebook is fun when your friends are active. #askangelelizabeth traub
@afmarcom Facebook bores me. I dont like the way they do biz. Trying to get a feel for new MySpace since I blog abt music thoug #AskAngelIronhelix
….and what about Spotify?
@afmarcom @PavelNovel has anyone ever tried @Spotify @SpotifyUSA #askangelTodd E. Jones
@tejones I haven’t, but I have friends who used it and then I guess got bored. They don’t talk about it anymore. @PavelNovel #AskAngelAngelique
@tejones I tried Spotify, but I still stick to my Pandora #askangelPavel Konoplenko
Even the networks we like do things that annoy us:
@afmarcom Paid ads on Twitter – annoys me too #AskAngelHolly Chessman
@afmarcom I get bored/annoyed when Facebook and #GooglePlus send me too many brain-dead notifications #askangelSteve Case
@afmarcom Horrible UI is a big one, too. If I can’t tell what I’m supposed to do, all it does it frustrate me. #AskAngelCasey E. Palmer
@doomzTO Who has a horrible user interface? #AskAngelAngelique
@afmarcom LOL. This is totally #QuizCasey. Love it. G+ has some options hidden in weird places, and FB has too many layers. #AskAngelCasey E. Palmer
@afmarcom With Twitter, you can’t really get "lost" because its UI is pretty simple. LI, FB and G+ could all learn something. #AskAngelCasey E. Palmer
Here’s what inspired me to ask the question what bores and excites people about social networks:
Here’s why I asked the whole question: #AskAngelAngelique
I get interested and bored with various networks in spurts, often having to do w/ other ppl’s activity…. #AskAngelAngelique
… actually, when I think about it, it’s ALWAYS to do with other’s activity! #AskAngelAngelique
It also has to do with effective communication. #AskAngelAngelique
The less effective FB biz is to talk to ppl as my page, the less I want to use it. #AskAngelAngelique
@afmarcom That seems like a logical response. If it isn’t working for you, try something else. #AskAngelHolly Chessman
@afmarcom That makes a lot of sense. It’s wearisome to use a service when the interaction’s value is diminishing. #AskAngelCasey E. Palmer
Is something awful going to happen to Twitter?
Q FOR ALL: Did you see @JayBaer’s post saying that Twitter is going to filter our streams ala Edgerank? #AskAngelAngelique
@afmarcom @jaybaer What. That’s it. I’m done with the Internet. *gets up and leaves* #AskAngelCasey E. Palmer
@afmarcom here is the article from @JayBaer (i saved it) http://ow.ly/iPi3Z 44 Ways the Twitter You Know Is Changing Forever #AskAngelJeff Tincher
@afmarcom That would stink #AskAngelHolly Chessman
I think that would make Twitter wither like FB is withering. @HollyChessman @JeffTincher #AskAngelAngelique
Angelique makes a bold — and apparently popular! — pronouncement
YES! I SAID IT! FACEBOOK IS WITHERING! #AskAngelAngelique
NOOO don’t say it!!:) RT @afmarcom: YES! I SAID IT! FACEBOOK IS WITHERING! #askangelDiane Najm
@afmarcom agreed! #askangel close to jumping the sharkTodd E. Jones
Yikes! FB jumping the shark? RT @tejones: @afmarcom agreed! #askangel close to jumping the shark #askangelDiane Najm
@afmarcom I think people stick with FB out of habit rather than active enjoyment #AskAngelHolly Chessman
Totally agree!Too many changes RT @HollyChessman: @afmarcom I think people stick with FB out of habit rather than active enjoyment #askangelDiane Najm
agree RT @HollyChessman: @afmarcom I think people stick with FB out of habit rather than active enjoyment #AskAngelJeff Tincher
The harder FB makes it to talk w/ friends, the more it endangers itself. @virtualgestures @tejones #AskAngelAngelique
Pride hinders RT @afmarcom: The harder FB makes it to talk w/ friends, the more it endangers itself. @virtualgestures @tejones #AskAngelelizabeth traub
@virtualgestures @afmarcom we’ll see how the new FB changes change things, but the hype can’t last forever #askangelTodd E. Jones
Withering, I say!
Afmarcom
Back to what really worries Angelique:
I’m REALLY worried what Jay sez is true & Twitter will become bad for convo. @virtualgestures @tejones @jefftincher #AskAngelAngelique
@afmarcom i sure HOPE not!!! in re to twitter changes. FB is on the downside of the mountain. #AskAngelJeff Tincher
@afmarcom @virtualgestures @tejones @JeffTincher OPTIMIZE YOUR GOOGLE+ PRESENCE WHILE YOU STILL CAN! #EndOfDays #AskAngelCasey E. Palmer
Angelique asked the group if any of them participate in a boutique social network
Q FOR EVERYONE: Who participates regularly in a boutique network, like a Ning group? #AskAngelAngelique
I’ll answer my Q 1st: I do! I participate in Planet Thrive, and I was on a few that closed. #AskAngelAngelique
@afmarcom A: I participate in several boutique networks geared to highly focused interests #AskAngelJames Lauffer
@jameslauffer Are they on Ning, or hosted by a company or org on their website? #AskAngelAngelique
@afmarcom I was in a Ning group about a year and a half ago. Is that Ning thing still around? #askangelRob Schnapp
@RobSchnapp Yes, Ning is still there! That’s where Planet Thrive is. #AskAngelAngelique
Planet Thrive is for people who have chemical sensitivity and related health ailments. It’s a boutique social network built on the Ning network. There’s discussion, live chat, member blogs and a database of information. If you’re interested, go to http://planetthrive.com.
Planet ThriveOnline health community for people recovering from environmental and other chronic illnesses like Lyme Disease, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome,…
@RobSchnapp @afmarcom how easy is it to export content out of Ning? #askangelTodd E. Jones
@tejones Most Ning networks are private, so non-members can’t see content. @RobSchnapp #AskAngelAngelique
We all take a ride in the wayback machine….
@afmarcom One of my old-timey Yahoo groups is still alive. But I rarely, if ever, check it. #askangelRob Schnapp
I had my Yahoo Group before Yahoo HAD groups! It was hosted in various places before that. @RobSchnapp #AskAngelAngelique
Mine too! "Belly-Dance," one of the oldest on the web! RT @RobSchnapp One of my old-timey Yahoo groups is still alive. #AskAngelAngelique
belly-dance : Belly-Dance discussion and eventsThis list is owned and moderated by Angelique, former professional belly-dancer, former owner of Angelique & Friends Entertainment, and c…
@robschnapp @afmarcom I am still on a Yahoo group from 7 years ago. Really. #AskAngelelizabeth traub
@afmarcom @RobSchnapp And still close friends with an AOL chat group that started over 11 years ago. Friendships for life. #AskAngelelizabeth traub
@elizonthego @afmarcom There’s even an ancient Voy group I was in that still gets some love. #askangelRob Schnapp
@robschnapp @afmarcom "Voy" that is crazy #AskAngelelizabeth traub
@elizonthego Yes, Voy is practically web 1.0 and yet still hanging on. Barely. @afmarcom #askangelRob Schnapp
@RobSchnapp What’s Voy? @elizonthego #AskAngelAngelique
@afmarcom Go look. http://voy.com is message boards and groups (from the Dark Ages). @elizonthego #askangelRob Schnapp
@afmarcom It probably only works with Explorer 5 or lower ;) @elizonthego #askangelRob Schnapp
Free Message Boards and Online Forums at VoyForums!VoyForums – Free personal Forum/Message Board/Discussion Board. With threads, forum archives, private forums, and more!
@RobSchnapp I HAVE to check this out! @elizonthego #AskAngelAngelique
@robschnapp @afmarcom Looks like fun, and like an investor’s board of the past. #AskAngelelizabeth traub
Todd teaches Angelique something new: You can create your own boutique social network with…. WordPress? Yes!
@RobSchnapp @afmarcom yes, trying to convince someone to leave Ning and go self hosted with #wordpress #askangelTodd E. Jones
@tejones I imaging Ning penetration is low. So it may not be a tough sell. @afmarcom #askangelRob Schnapp
@tejones You can create a boutique social network with WORDPRESS? @robschnapp #AskAngelAngelique
@afmarcom You can create *anything* with #WordPress! @tejones @RobSchnapp #askangelSteve Case
Todd shared this with me later: BuddyPress!
BuddyPress.orgCommunities, the WordPress way
Not surprisingly, I had to ask: Considering all that bugs us about the current popular social networks, where’s the love for New MySpace?
I have to say, guys, I’m sad that I don’t see more of you on #NEWMYSPACE :( #AskAngelAngelique
@afmarcom i’m going to fix that :-) #askangelTodd E. Jones
@tejones Awesome! Let me know when you’re on so I can connect! #AskAngelAngelique
I need to explore it yet! RT @afmarcom: I have to say, guys, Im sad that I dont see more of you on #NEWMYSPACE :( #askangelDiane Najm
@afmarcom I haven’t seen a biz purpose for it yet & I don’t have time to spend on networks I’m not sure are useful for biz #AskAngelHolly Chessman
Have fuuuuun, @HollyChessman, have FUUUUUN! #NewMySpace #AskAngelAngelique
Huh? What is this word you speak of? @afmarcom: Have fuuuuun, @HollyChessman, have FUUUUUN! #NewMySpace #AskAngelHolly Chessman
Wanna know more about New MySpace? Here’s the Storify of my guest turn on #AtomicChat, when we talked all about it!
#AtomicChat February 25, 2013 (with images, tweets) · afmarcomHere’s a screenshot of Angelique’s New MySpace profile: Well, look who arrived first! Hey, Dave! It’s from an ancient SNL skit. Wish I co…
Afmarcom
Bulldozer realizes none of us has mentioned the “fun” network:
Noone talking about Pinterest? MT @afmarcom: @PavelNovel Which social networks enjoy? Which bore? #AskAngelA Bulldozer.Com
@ABulldozerCom Hi there! Didn’t get a chance to say hi! Interesting that no one DID mention Pinterest for fun! Hmmmm…. #AskAngelAngelique
@ABulldozerCom Yes of course Pinterest is fun too. @afmarcom @PavelNovel #askangelRob Schnapp
@donesearchin @ABulldozerCom Oh right. I forgot Pinterest too. Fun, but it no longer stands out in my head. #askangelPavel Konoplenko
@afmarcom @ABulldozerCom I have to "schedule" pinterest otherwise I get lost in it. I LOVE LOVE it. Great for my retail sight #AskAngelelizabeth traub
Me, too! Although…. RT @elizonthego @ABulldozerCom I have to "schedule" pinterest otherwise I get lost in it. I LOVE LOVE it. #AskAngelAngelique
@elizonthego I really don’t like the new interface. Images don’t look as nice. @ABulldozerCom #AskAngelAngelique
@afmarcom @ABulldozerCom I agree on the images. #AskAngelelizabeth traub
This is what we’re talking about:
Afmarcom
The conversation gives Angelique an idea…. a mad scientist kind of idea!
Q FOR EVERYONE: If Angelique & Friends created a boutique social network, who might be interested in hanging out there? #AskAngelAngelique
I ask b/c everyone wanted an #AskAngel FB & LI group, but no one really uses them.Angelique
@afmarcom What would this boutique social network DO? #AskAngelCasey E. Palmer
"@doomzTO: @afmarcom What would this boutique social network DO? #AskAngel" yeah.Ironhelix
@afmarcom What’s in it for me? (and @doomzTO) #askangelSteve Case
@doomzTO Discussions, live chat, plus each member get discussions, a blog, a gallery & maybe other stuff @ironhelix #AskAngelAngelique
@afmarcom sure we’d hang! #AskAngelDatelivery
@afmarcom I’m always willing to check out new outlets. #askangelRob Schnapp
@afmarcom I love boutique’s and would come to visit when I can. #AskAngelelizabeth traub
@afmarcom @Ironhelix Sounds cool, depending on how customizable the design and functionality is. #AskAngelCasey E. Palmer
@doomzTO Good Q, b/c all the networks I’ve joined have been more or less amateur hour. @ironhelix #AskAngelAngelique
@doomzTO This may be of more interest to ppl w/ a specific need, e.g. my GreenDreamHome ppl. @ironhelix #AskAngelAngelique
Afmarcom
Will there be an Angelique and Friends social network? It’s still being tested. So let’s go on to other Qs! Here’s one from Holly about blog integration and hosting.
Q: which do you prefer – a blog directly on a company’s site or one hosted separately? #askangel @afmarcomHolly Chessman
A for @HollyChessman: Off-site blogs scream "amateur hour." And the content always matches the impression. #AskAngelAngelique
@afmarcom @HollyChessman A: I don’t care where the company’s blog lives so long as it’s easy to find #askangelSteve Case
@JeffTincher At least need their own domain. Self-hosted #WordPress blogger myself @HollyChessman @tejones #askangelSteve Case
@afmarcom A for @HollyChessman blog on company’s site, better for SEO. keeps people on same domain. If good, can dynamically link #AskAngelJeff Tincher
@afmarcom @HollyChessman no doubt, it a company can’t have their own hosted blog its digital Sharecropping #askangel #contentmarketingTodd E. Jones
Love it! "Digital sharecropping" RT @tejones If a company can’t have their own hosted blog its digital Sharecropping #AskAngelAngelique
@afmarcom More info on digital sharecropping http://www.copyblogger.com/digital-sharecropping/ #askangel companies need to own their content!Todd E. Jones
@tejones But would you dismiss it out of hand because of it’s location? #AskAngelHolly Chessman
@HollyChessman no i wouldn’t dismiss it out of hand, but i like to see companies own their blog. that shouldn’t be a problem #askangelTodd E. Jones
@HollyChessman I watched @Heifer make the transition from blogspot to selfhosted and did pretty well #askangel http://www.heifer.org/blog/Todd E. Jones
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Back to Holly’s question: Would we refuse to read a company blog that was hosted somewhere besides a company’s website?
@HollyChessman For me it would depend on the size and purpose of the company. @tejones #AskAngelAngelique
@HollyChessman @tejones i have seen a lot of blogs on different domains. can also be good, but best if on same domain. #AskAngelJeff Tincher
@HollyChessman @tejones another thing…a business blog on http://wordpress.com or other freebie blog sites, is cheap, bad. IMO #AskAngelJeff Tincher
@JeffTincher At least need their own domain. Self-hosted #WordPress blogger myself @HollyChessman @tejones #askangelSteve Case
@JoeBugBuster definitely! self-host or no-host on WP ;-) #AskAngelJeff Tincher
@afmarcom @HollyChessman @JeffTincher This goes right back to why it’s important to OWN YOUR OWN SPACE ON THE INTERNET :| #AskAngelCasey E. Palmer
Q from Holly about why people follow blogs
Q: do you follow blogs because you’re looking to learn, enjoy a story, find news, or something else? (Or yes?) #AskAngelHolly Chessman
A for @HollyChessman: Every single reason you can think of is a reason I’ve read or followed a particular blog! #AskAngelAngelique
Both Learn&enjoy RT @HollyChessman: Q:do you follow blogs because youre looking to learn,enjoy story,find news, or something else? #askangelDiane Najm
@HollyChessman all of the above, i stop in my tracks to ready @copyblogger #askangelTodd E. Jones
@HollyChessman I usually follow blogs to learn and for news @tejones #askangelSteve Case
A for @HollyChessman: Sometimes I read just to support a friend. #AskAngelAngelique
And finally: Promotions and Praise!
@doomzTO @afmarcom good one! #askangelTodd E. Jones
Got to go get ready for my next mtg – thanks all for a lively and interesting conversation #askangelHolly Chessman
Excellent conversation today. Thx RT @afmarcom: Hey, everyone! We’re overtime, but I’m still around. Will thank everyone, though: #AskAngelelizabeth traub
Thank you so much for wonderful chat.I have to head out!Glad I was able to make this chat! Goal: Google+ and My Space RT @afmarcom #askangelDiane Najm
@virtualgestures Great you could be here! MySpace first! #AskAngelAngelique
Thanks great tip! @afmarcom Great you could be here! MySpace first! #AskAngelDiane Najm
How am I doing so far on my Marketing & Technology Predictions for 2013? http://bit.ly/12Mth5z #AskAngelSteve Case
@afmarcom fyi, for everyone, my Google+ https://plus.google.com/u/0/113599562687374490418/posts #askangelTodd E. Jones
Check it out: Todd made an #AskAngel Twitter list! (Not sure why the link has Jeff’s pic!)
@tejones @afmarcom here you go: https://twitter.com/tejones/askangel #askangelTodd E. Jones
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Great job putting this together. Great to read through. This was a great chat.
Thanks! I think I’ll do slideshows of our best chats and put those on the official #AskAngel page (http://afmarcom.com/learn)
Hiya! Quick question that’s completely off topic. Do you know how to make your site mobile friendly? My site looks weird when browsing from my iphone. I’m trying
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What about your site looks weird on your iPhone? You can either create a special mobile version of your website, or you can make sure that the layout of your website is responsive to changes is browser resolutions and levels of zoom. As far as I know from viewing my website on many phones, my website is easy to read and use on all of them. I use the Thesis theme for Wordpress (http://diythemes.com). I have just two columns, they are relatively narrow, and I don’t have any kind of pop-ups.
I really dislike the “mobile versions” of my site created by plugins I’ve tried. If I needed something like that, I’d hire a programmer.
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